In the era of $250,000 RV gifts and hob-nobbing with ecclesiastical influencers, it’s heartening to know that only sex carries a whiff of impropriety sufficient to disrupt the workings of our “system” of “justice.” S/
The judge overstepped. He should have limited testimony to whether there was a financial benefit, or not. That’s the only corrupting influence: the accusation was that it might cause Fani to drag out the case. Fani isn’t dragging out the case; the defendant is.
We can scream all we want about how Fani Willis can’t make a single misstep, because it’s somehow “on her” to save the country from this mess. That’s unrealistic and particularly annoying when the expectation is directed at a Black woman.
We are ALL entitled to the pursuit of happiness and that if two adults who work with one another want to have a sexual relationship—regardless of anyone’s marital status—that’s their choice. Whether she and Wade have sex is irrelevant.
I agree that Wade and Willis should have known better but it’s quite hypocritical and ironic that trump is claiming that HER speech at the church was improper and inappropriate. I’ve lost track of how many gag orders he’s had, he still has, and how many he’s violated.
🤔 WHY should they "have known better" ⁉️ One presumes that married couples are assumed to be having sexual relations, spending entire days/nights/holidays together yet IN GEORGIA it is allowable for a married couple to represent BOTH SIDES in a case. It is blatant racism & sexism to infer that two SINGLE consenting adults on the same side of a case, should be any business of anyone else but them. And as someone who has been involved in divorce proceedings, personally & on either side of a friend/family member's breakup, it is absurd to consider relevant a relationship not undertaken at the time a couple was still together and I therefore consider it perfectly logical that Mr Wade would confine himself to relationships he had during the time he and his then wife were operating as a married couple.
I frankly find all this legal mumbo jumbo trying to infer there was any good reason for the Judge to allow this debacle to reach the level it did, as an almost incestuous need for lawyers etc. to excuse missteps when it suits, & exaggerate when it does not. As someone who is extremely grateful for some of the legal commentary we are privileged to have access to in these challenging times, this is a weakness I have noted on more than one occasion. 🧐
To cut the Judge some slack, he is fairly inexperienced &/or may have thought he needed to put this question to bed before the trial as a pre-emptive strike, but IMHO he just gave it the appearance of legitimacy 🤷
⁉️🤔 Sick of this "self inflicted" nonsense 🤷 They had a private consensual and short term relationship like 1000's of other office romances all over the world, and as he was separated, she was single, they had no conflict of interest, the Judge should not have given it the veneer of legitimacy. This was INFLICTED by grubby little men & women desperate to try & show EVERYONE is as despicable as their god-king Trump, so he will be given a pass for his ACTUAL appalling behaviour. 😡
I agree and I wish they had, because trump can be president even though he likes to grab women by the ——-, rape, and spew hatred, but we all know these rules do not apply to us. It’s not fair, but here we are. I’m pleased Willis will lead this case and hope she / we can find some peace with such a hard reality.
Quick reminder that there is a goddamn tape recording of Trump pressuring state officials to rig the election in overturn a free, unfair result. This entire sidebar was misdirection.
Is it that lay people can't understand how court is supposed to work, or that this actually was how a hearing conceived and run by Judge McAfee worked? The prosecutors became the defendants and the defense the prosecution, but none of the normal rules and processes applied. The defense (Roman party) brought little evidence - there didn't appear to be any rules of evidence - and their evidence didn't show what they claimed, so they switched claims. Their witnesses were unwilling and easily impeached (and "sexual impropriety" as used in this reporting is a euphemism of the extent of the Bradley impeachment.) The attorneys for the defense were a series of bumbling fools ("self-inflicted quagmire"???), trying to pile on to Merchant's weak base, and they lost. The first 9 of the 23 pages of the McAfee ruling documents their loss, and the rest goes back and forth between the lack of professionalism and poor arguments on both sides; the defense ones continue being brought, as part of the pile-on, to court.
The question of how this ruling is appealed - Wade resigned, so the prosecution doesn't appear to be preparing for an appeal - and in what other venues the defense can maintain the upper hand to further subvert the legal system - well, that's what this lay person will be watching.
I love how when we are talking about a black woman, the “appearance of mendacity” is enough for a judge to rush to judgement. But have a convicted rapist and liar and we all have bend over backwards to let him do whatever he wants. That judge is a racist, cowardly, piece of shit and I hope he steps on legos barefoot every day for the rest of his life.
While laughing with glee at hearing Fani Willis trying to back foot the defense with her fiery statement about “not being on trial,” I’m not surprised that the judge took umbrage. She was basically yelling at the defense counsel, and scolding her.
Agree or disagree that the judge should/should not have scheduled this hearing, he did. As often as we say that “anyone else would already be in jail,” we also have to apply that “anyone else “ standard to the conduct of people we like.
In this case, “anyone else” would also have been held accountable by the judge. And he did caution her from the bench. It just hurts to see it in writing.
In the era of $250,000 RV gifts and hob-nobbing with ecclesiastical influencers, it’s heartening to know that only sex carries a whiff of impropriety sufficient to disrupt the workings of our “system” of “justice.” S/
The judge overstepped. He should have limited testimony to whether there was a financial benefit, or not. That’s the only corrupting influence: the accusation was that it might cause Fani to drag out the case. Fani isn’t dragging out the case; the defendant is.
We can scream all we want about how Fani Willis can’t make a single misstep, because it’s somehow “on her” to save the country from this mess. That’s unrealistic and particularly annoying when the expectation is directed at a Black woman.
We are ALL entitled to the pursuit of happiness and that if two adults who work with one another want to have a sexual relationship—regardless of anyone’s marital status—that’s their choice. Whether she and Wade have sex is irrelevant.
👏👏👏💯
I agree that Wade and Willis should have known better but it’s quite hypocritical and ironic that trump is claiming that HER speech at the church was improper and inappropriate. I’ve lost track of how many gag orders he’s had, he still has, and how many he’s violated.
Yes, the 1st Amendment is for Trump and nobody else.
And most recently his “bloodbath “ speech, in particular.
🤔 WHY should they "have known better" ⁉️ One presumes that married couples are assumed to be having sexual relations, spending entire days/nights/holidays together yet IN GEORGIA it is allowable for a married couple to represent BOTH SIDES in a case. It is blatant racism & sexism to infer that two SINGLE consenting adults on the same side of a case, should be any business of anyone else but them. And as someone who has been involved in divorce proceedings, personally & on either side of a friend/family member's breakup, it is absurd to consider relevant a relationship not undertaken at the time a couple was still together and I therefore consider it perfectly logical that Mr Wade would confine himself to relationships he had during the time he and his then wife were operating as a married couple.
I frankly find all this legal mumbo jumbo trying to infer there was any good reason for the Judge to allow this debacle to reach the level it did, as an almost incestuous need for lawyers etc. to excuse missteps when it suits, & exaggerate when it does not. As someone who is extremely grateful for some of the legal commentary we are privileged to have access to in these challenging times, this is a weakness I have noted on more than one occasion. 🧐
To cut the Judge some slack, he is fairly inexperienced &/or may have thought he needed to put this question to bed before the trial as a pre-emptive strike, but IMHO he just gave it the appearance of legitimacy 🤷
All this because a rookie judge did not have the cojones to deny an irrelevant motion.
👍👏💯 Couldn't agree more
Thank you!
Anything for delay; but Willis and Wade should have avoided this self-inflicted wound.
⁉️🤔 Sick of this "self inflicted" nonsense 🤷 They had a private consensual and short term relationship like 1000's of other office romances all over the world, and as he was separated, she was single, they had no conflict of interest, the Judge should not have given it the veneer of legitimacy. This was INFLICTED by grubby little men & women desperate to try & show EVERYONE is as despicable as their god-king Trump, so he will be given a pass for his ACTUAL appalling behaviour. 😡
I agree and I wish they had, because trump can be president even though he likes to grab women by the ——-, rape, and spew hatred, but we all know these rules do not apply to us. It’s not fair, but here we are. I’m pleased Willis will lead this case and hope she / we can find some peace with such a hard reality.
Quick reminder that there is a goddamn tape recording of Trump pressuring state officials to rig the election in overturn a free, unfair result. This entire sidebar was misdirection.
Is it that lay people can't understand how court is supposed to work, or that this actually was how a hearing conceived and run by Judge McAfee worked? The prosecutors became the defendants and the defense the prosecution, but none of the normal rules and processes applied. The defense (Roman party) brought little evidence - there didn't appear to be any rules of evidence - and their evidence didn't show what they claimed, so they switched claims. Their witnesses were unwilling and easily impeached (and "sexual impropriety" as used in this reporting is a euphemism of the extent of the Bradley impeachment.) The attorneys for the defense were a series of bumbling fools ("self-inflicted quagmire"???), trying to pile on to Merchant's weak base, and they lost. The first 9 of the 23 pages of the McAfee ruling documents their loss, and the rest goes back and forth between the lack of professionalism and poor arguments on both sides; the defense ones continue being brought, as part of the pile-on, to court.
The question of how this ruling is appealed - Wade resigned, so the prosecution doesn't appear to be preparing for an appeal - and in what other venues the defense can maintain the upper hand to further subvert the legal system - well, that's what this lay person will be watching.
👏👍💯
I love how when we are talking about a black woman, the “appearance of mendacity” is enough for a judge to rush to judgement. But have a convicted rapist and liar and we all have bend over backwards to let him do whatever he wants. That judge is a racist, cowardly, piece of shit and I hope he steps on legos barefoot every day for the rest of his life.
While laughing with glee at hearing Fani Willis trying to back foot the defense with her fiery statement about “not being on trial,” I’m not surprised that the judge took umbrage. She was basically yelling at the defense counsel, and scolding her.
Agree or disagree that the judge should/should not have scheduled this hearing, he did. As often as we say that “anyone else would already be in jail,” we also have to apply that “anyone else “ standard to the conduct of people we like.
In this case, “anyone else” would also have been held accountable by the judge. And he did caution her from the bench. It just hurts to see it in writing.