From the other side of the pond, a non-American following American politics closely since DJT was elected in 2016: Could someone please explain to me why DJT has so many followers in spite of everything he says and does. There is seemingly no end to his (and Vance’s) BS. Yet, as of today he can still return the WH. Unfortunately, if he is re-elected it will have severe consequences for Europe too. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Public Notice is indeed worth whole subscribing to! 😊
It's somewhat complicated, but if you combine white racism + white evangelical Christians, you'll have at least 80% (my non-scientific estimate) of the answer. Then look at the right-wing-corporate-controlled media in most "red states." It's a bubble, but a very, very big one.
This has been the plan of the GOP going back to Nixon and the "Southern Strategy". The rich wanted to lower taxes dramatically but would have had a hard time doing it without pulling in the indoctrinated racism and fundamentalist Christianity of the South. Add in defunding public education over decades, and you have the MAGA mob that exists today. I'm certain the GOP never wanted someone like DJT, though. I believe they wanted to maintain and gain more control of the country while holding out the carrot of the extreme desires of the people who became the MAGA mob. The GOP has itself to blame.
Exactly right. The Republican party has failed the country. It is about their pursuit of power above all. Education is key. Thank you for saying that especially with regard to public education. Democracy cannot survive without an educated citizen "indoctrinated" (yes) in the idea that the good of the community and the individual are connected.
I am not British, but they still live in the days of Hope and Glory, hence Brexit would bring back glorious days🙄. The economy is in shambles, the young people are paying price for a bad decision.
Reminds me of all the Victorian Men's Adventure I read growing up—"Rule, Britannia!", "God is an Englishman!", "Tally-Ho into Combat, Old Cricket-Bat!" I fell for it myself when I was younger, so much so I didn't even question what I was being spoon-fed.
I previously asked Trump supporters essentially the same thing: "Why do people still support Trump after all he has said and done?" The best answer I heard: "Because he's so popular." People support political figures like they support sports teams. Whoever wins gets the support of a loud crowd. Trump won once, and many think he can win again. It's also remarkably difficult for people to think (and even more difficult to admit) they were wrong.
There's been a strain of fascist sympathy running through American politics for decades. Other presidents and presidential candidates have flirted with the idea, but very few have been as vocal and open about the idea of president-as-dictator of a socially regimented and controlled America as Trump has. There are other factors but really it's mostly people who want someone to punish those they don't like while telling them they're special.
"Don't let the crybabies in the media disuade you fellow patriots" tweets Vance. "Just keep the cat memes going"....Yeah you MAGA mob, you just do that. I'm sure it'll do wonders for your standing amongst normal people.
“In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating — they're eating the pets of the people that live there,” Trump babbled during the debate, thrown off by Harris’s transparent attempt to bait him with a dig at his crowd size. “And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame.”
I’m not sure which is more disturbing? The fact that Trump represents one of the oldest political parties in the US as a presidential candidate, or the fact that this man may once again possess the nuclear codes!
VANCE: “Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country. Where is our border czar?”
That's a good question, JD, since, as you're well aware, "border czar" is a totally made-up term by right-wing media created to give VP Harris responsibilities she never had.
MUIR (reading from prepared docs during debate): "ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community."
The fact that David had a prepared statement available indicates ABC anticipated the "dog chow" story to come up.
I knew back in 2015 that Trump was devoid of any qualities that we need in a leader. Observing the media fawn over him for 9 long years has worn America (and the world) out!
This election is about our democracy vs. MAGA. It’s time to vote out every Republican from the top down! MAGA world needs an intervention.
Let’s review. Women who have cats but not children are evil incarnate. They are wasting their lives and refusing to do their duty to god and country. Pets are a demon-sent distraction that divert women from their proper role of raising children and making men’s lives easier.
However, if those demon spawn cats are fictionally threatened by brown people, well known germaphobe Donald Trump will save them. Cue AI memes of Trump with animals - naturally, given he would never voluntarily touch an animal. They have to use AI because there are no authentic pictures of Trump showing affection to an animal, as he doesn’t care about them in the slightest and finds them disgusting. Promoting this bizarre racist lie and making Trump the hero of their fantasy kitten murder world is cool and great politics.
Trump's sycophants can't control him, for which we should be grateful. He continues to spiral deeper into insanity. We have watched his deterioration in real time. He can no longer even present as sane. None of this matters to his rabid base or the filthy rich powerful backers who see him as their path to unlimited wealth and unfettered control. But normal people are hopefully waking up to the frightening reality as they are forced to watch this madness. Thankfully, we have an antidote. I'm off to basque in the glow of the Kamala-Taylor phenomena.
Before dismissing the statements by Trump about mistreatment of pets by immigrants in Ohio, let us remember the warm and sympathetic relationships that Donald Trump and his family have with animals. Remember the eagle that got it?
What I also find so interesting is that Trump has no pets and never has had pets. He can’t love anyone or anything but himself. So the memes with him protecting cats is soooo off.
And to think these men want to "lead" our country. They think they're capable of it. I hope more voters see they're unconsciously incompetent racists, misogynists, xenophobes, bullies and weirdos.
Watching Harris transparently drive Trump into a full grade-school meltdown made me realize why some foreign leaders are salivating at the prospect of having him back in office. Who wouldn't want to negotiate with someone who is so easily manipulated?
"Vance and Trump insist that it’s appropriate to amplify lies in pursuit of a greater “truth.” " Reminds me of Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts"... or Stephen Colbert's "Truthiness". These guys are working on their evil faster than we "normies" can keep up with it. Add the artificial intelligence AI now. People will stop believing in anything they hear, see or read. Pick your side.
The cat story was so far out that it boomeranged. Keystone cops-ish. This said more about Trump Vance and the whole bunch of them than anything Harris could have said. Her facial expressions said enough. But this crowd is working on getting votes from every last really stupid vulnerable racist ignorant person that can find their way to a voting booth, or to take assignment on how to prevent others, or cheat.
Trump promises a thugocracy. But he's not going to get there. Still we have to keep whacking back.
From the other side of the pond, a non-American following American politics closely since DJT was elected in 2016: Could someone please explain to me why DJT has so many followers in spite of everything he says and does. There is seemingly no end to his (and Vance’s) BS. Yet, as of today he can still return the WH. Unfortunately, if he is re-elected it will have severe consequences for Europe too. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Public Notice is indeed worth whole subscribing to! 😊
It's somewhat complicated, but if you combine white racism + white evangelical Christians, you'll have at least 80% (my non-scientific estimate) of the answer. Then look at the right-wing-corporate-controlled media in most "red states." It's a bubble, but a very, very big one.
Don’t forget social media algorithms tuned for engagement, which adds another bubble within the bubble
Absolutely!
This has been the plan of the GOP going back to Nixon and the "Southern Strategy". The rich wanted to lower taxes dramatically but would have had a hard time doing it without pulling in the indoctrinated racism and fundamentalist Christianity of the South. Add in defunding public education over decades, and you have the MAGA mob that exists today. I'm certain the GOP never wanted someone like DJT, though. I believe they wanted to maintain and gain more control of the country while holding out the carrot of the extreme desires of the people who became the MAGA mob. The GOP has itself to blame.
Exactly right. The Republican party has failed the country. It is about their pursuit of power above all. Education is key. Thank you for saying that especially with regard to public education. Democracy cannot survive without an educated citizen "indoctrinated" (yes) in the idea that the good of the community and the individual are connected.
DJT has so many followers BECAUSE of everything he says and does.
Many of his followers are somehow made to feel they're part of the "in crowd" against the "others," (everybody else.)
Many feel they've nothing left, and so to be part of "the club," (some call it a cult,) they'll offer their loyalty.
Thanks Helen!
I don’t understand it myself. And my friends and I frequently utter, “What the fuck???” when we discuss this reality.
Why did the UK vote for Brexit?
I am not British, but they still live in the days of Hope and Glory, hence Brexit would bring back glorious days🙄. The economy is in shambles, the young people are paying price for a bad decision.
Reminds me of all the Victorian Men's Adventure I read growing up—"Rule, Britannia!", "God is an Englishman!", "Tally-Ho into Combat, Old Cricket-Bat!" I fell for it myself when I was younger, so much so I didn't even question what I was being spoon-fed.
I previously asked Trump supporters essentially the same thing: "Why do people still support Trump after all he has said and done?" The best answer I heard: "Because he's so popular." People support political figures like they support sports teams. Whoever wins gets the support of a loud crowd. Trump won once, and many think he can win again. It's also remarkably difficult for people to think (and even more difficult to admit) they were wrong.
There's been a strain of fascist sympathy running through American politics for decades. Other presidents and presidential candidates have flirted with the idea, but very few have been as vocal and open about the idea of president-as-dictator of a socially regimented and controlled America as Trump has. There are other factors but really it's mostly people who want someone to punish those they don't like while telling them they're special.
"Don't let the crybabies in the media disuade you fellow patriots" tweets Vance. "Just keep the cat memes going"....Yeah you MAGA mob, you just do that. I'm sure it'll do wonders for your standing amongst normal people.
“In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating — they're eating the pets of the people that live there,” Trump babbled during the debate, thrown off by Harris’s transparent attempt to bait him with a dig at his crowd size. “And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame.”
I’m not sure which is more disturbing? The fact that Trump represents one of the oldest political parties in the US as a presidential candidate, or the fact that this man may once again possess the nuclear codes!
Be afraid, be very afraid!….:)
“The damage Trump’s handlers had done by letting him run with this hoax.”
Trump is a 78 years old. He is a grown man. He has agency, so the responsibility for running with the hoax rests with him, not any handlers.
Unless you mean he is non compos mentis. Then the responsibility lies with his family.
True, but if I were non compos, that is not the family I'd want to have to depend on.
VANCE: “Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country. Where is our border czar?”
That's a good question, JD, since, as you're well aware, "border czar" is a totally made-up term by right-wing media created to give VP Harris responsibilities she never had.
MUIR (reading from prepared docs during debate): "ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community."
The fact that David had a prepared statement available indicates ABC anticipated the "dog chow" story to come up.
I knew back in 2015 that Trump was devoid of any qualities that we need in a leader. Observing the media fawn over him for 9 long years has worn America (and the world) out!
This election is about our democracy vs. MAGA. It’s time to vote out every Republican from the top down! MAGA world needs an intervention.
Let’s do it decisively America!🇺🇸
Let’s review. Women who have cats but not children are evil incarnate. They are wasting their lives and refusing to do their duty to god and country. Pets are a demon-sent distraction that divert women from their proper role of raising children and making men’s lives easier.
However, if those demon spawn cats are fictionally threatened by brown people, well known germaphobe Donald Trump will save them. Cue AI memes of Trump with animals - naturally, given he would never voluntarily touch an animal. They have to use AI because there are no authentic pictures of Trump showing affection to an animal, as he doesn’t care about them in the slightest and finds them disgusting. Promoting this bizarre racist lie and making Trump the hero of their fantasy kitten murder world is cool and great politics.
Trump's sycophants can't control him, for which we should be grateful. He continues to spiral deeper into insanity. We have watched his deterioration in real time. He can no longer even present as sane. None of this matters to his rabid base or the filthy rich powerful backers who see him as their path to unlimited wealth and unfettered control. But normal people are hopefully waking up to the frightening reality as they are forced to watch this madness. Thankfully, we have an antidote. I'm off to basque in the glow of the Kamala-Taylor phenomena.
Thanks for the background on Springfield.
Yeah. I think it very doubtful I'd had it all explained so well (if at all) in the legacy media.
Before dismissing the statements by Trump about mistreatment of pets by immigrants in Ohio, let us remember the warm and sympathetic relationships that Donald Trump and his family have with animals. Remember the eagle that got it?
https://youtu.be/j1AU4qi7tWg?si=7eCR4rgmhBkRhmRu
The sons have killed animals from endangered species, and shot and killed a bear in Utah that was baited illegally by a guide they paid. Cuddly.
I wish I could un-see that image of Trump wielding an assault rifle and riding a giant cat.
It’s the kitten army that got me.
What I also find so interesting is that Trump has no pets and never has had pets. He can’t love anyone or anything but himself. So the memes with him protecting cats is soooo off.
That's what makes the memes of him hugging animals so hilarious. He is most definitely NOT an "animal person."
Yes. That’s what I meant if not clear.
And to think these men want to "lead" our country. They think they're capable of it. I hope more voters see they're unconsciously incompetent racists, misogynists, xenophobes, bullies and weirdos.
Watching Harris transparently drive Trump into a full grade-school meltdown made me realize why some foreign leaders are salivating at the prospect of having him back in office. Who wouldn't want to negotiate with someone who is so easily manipulated?
Can’t wait to hear Mr Trump and his VP candidate to declare that all Dems have “Cooties” so grade school cool…..
"Vance and Trump insist that it’s appropriate to amplify lies in pursuit of a greater “truth.” " Reminds me of Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts"... or Stephen Colbert's "Truthiness". These guys are working on their evil faster than we "normies" can keep up with it. Add the artificial intelligence AI now. People will stop believing in anything they hear, see or read. Pick your side.
The cat story was so far out that it boomeranged. Keystone cops-ish. This said more about Trump Vance and the whole bunch of them than anything Harris could have said. Her facial expressions said enough. But this crowd is working on getting votes from every last really stupid vulnerable racist ignorant person that can find their way to a voting booth, or to take assignment on how to prevent others, or cheat.
Trump promises a thugocracy. But he's not going to get there. Still we have to keep whacking back.